guys please this is pointless
R4WLYX: Banning CRAY and DRAY is fine, but banning DEST, BOMB, AMTR, SING, etc is just dumb.
just stop with the argument, this isnt a youtube comment section
Banning CRAY and DRAY isnt alloy makers being lazy since they both either replace or delete elemnts so its almost impossible to stop
Banning certain elements is just alloy makers being lazy. Only thing I ban for my alloys is replace mode CRAY and DRAY bombs.
Pexy: CONV isnt cheaty because DEST and BOMB arent. CONV is needed for strong alloys, I would say the only few materials qualified as cheaty are things like DMND or WALL, maybe a few others. And CRAY on replace mode is cheaty for destroying anything
cheaty elements is a complicated definition, usually it means 'unmeltable, unflammable, and cannot be destroyed by other normal means', conv fits this definition because u can only destroy it with other cheaty elements, such as bomb, dest, sing and so on. cheaty elements can also mean specific elements banned in a certain save, sometimes dray and cray, sometimes dray, cray and the rest of the cheaty elements.
converts not cheating i asked spike
It resisted the erase tool +1