TSNS detecting any element

  • resic
    19th November Member 0 Permalink

    When building one of my saves I saw that the TSNS is detecting any element that's above the set temperature of the TSNS itself, this includes insl, wifi, the adjacent conductor and other elements you don't really want to check the temperature of. This is true for inverted mode too. It makes the save more complex to make and harder to change the settings of the TSNS. It would be cool if there were some exceptions for TSNS which it would just ignore. I'm sure this would help other people too and won't break many saves (if there even will be any).

  • Jerehmia
    20th November Member 0 Permalink

    Aren't you just struggling with a TSNS in inverted mode because you misunderstand how it works (like I did)? A TSNS with tmp set to 2 will fire when any particle in its detection area is below the set temperature, and that's not what you want most of the time. What you usually want from an inverted sensor is that it fires as long as none of the particles in its detection area is above the set temperature. If you want the latter you'll have to use the TSNS in normal mode and put a NOT gate behind it to invert its signal.

    Edited once by Jerehmia. Last: 20th November
  • resic
    20th November Member 0 Permalink

    @Jerehmia (View Post)

     Yeah, but now the problem is that the TSNS detects the wifi with higher temperature than the TSNS. Also, It's just annoying that you have to set everything including insl, wifi, and anything else, around the sensor under or over the temperature set on the TSNS.

  • Jerehmia
    21st November Member 0 Permalink

    You can fix the first problem by not having the wifi in the TSNS detection area. What I usually do is just have the TSNS spark a conducting paricle and set up a LDTC(SPRK) to detect the sensor spark from a distance. Edit: separating the electronics from the sensors with a LDTC(SPRK) is generally a good idea if you're working with high pressures or temperatures.

    Edited once by Jerehmia. Last: 21st November
  • resic
    21st November Member 0 Permalink

    @Jerehmia (View Post)

     But now the problem: the detection should be very fast (I'm building a very unstable reactor), and I can't afford a slow not gate, the reactor will simply die before the system will react to anything. And, why is there an inverted mode if noone's going to use it? I know this problem is very specific but still, noone's going to use a TSNS to detect a hot insl.

  • Jerehmia
    21st November Member 0 Permalink

    I posted a fast NOT gate (1 frame delay) in the "Hole detector" thread earlier today, I don't want to spam the forum with the same save over and over.

  • resic
    22nd November Member 0 Permalink

    Ok, that's a good thing, thanks, but the argument still stands: what is the use of inverted mode or detecting insl if noone's going to use it?

    Edited once by resic. Last: 22nd November