Beta (ELEC) emitter

  • tptQuantification
    16th Sep 2023 Member 1 Permalink

    I'd like if there could be a nonfissile ELEC, emitter.

    It could be called technetium, TCNM or TECH, 

    It would be to exot like what polo is to deut. 

    It could have a similar life to polo and similar emission mechanics,

    And it could absorb neut like how merc does.

     

    I'd also recommend a nuclear moderator other than water,

    For the sake of reactor design

    But I think thats been recommended and considered before.

     

    Id also like to see, but less desperately,

    A life or tmp or tmp2 mode for plut that could make it neutron dependent.

    This hopefully wouldnt break many saves at all,

    especially because the numbers arent really used.

    I know similar things have been recommended in the past,

    but with few explainations on how to get around breaking saves.

     

     

    Edited once by tptQuantification. Last: 16th Sep 2023
  • username90000
    16th Sep 2023 Member 0 Permalink

    @tptQuantification (View Post)

     moderators are useless and water crmc and gold is enough 
    electron source useless
    about plutonium it will never be added probaly cause it is useless and will break saves
    and it will conflict with molten plutonium with tmp

    Edited once by username90000. Last: 16th Sep 2023
  • RebMiami
    17th Sep 2023 Member 1 Permalink

    It would be cool to see more stuff that interacts with ELEC, because then an electron source would be more useful.

    @username90000 The way tptQuantification describes it, it wouldn't break saves. It wouldn't conflict with molten plutonium because plutonium never melts before it explodes.

  • username90000
    17th Sep 2023 Member 0 Permalink

    @RebMiami (View Post)

     molten plutonium depends on tmp and it can conflict
    and there is no reason for it cause u can put it in airblock wall

    Edited once by username90000. Last: 17th Sep 2023
  • RebMiami
    19th Sep 2023 Member 0 Permalink

    @username90000 (View Post)

    I read the source code: this suggestion would only implicate PLUT's tmp *before* it explodes, while molten PLUT only sets tmp *after* it explodes. If, for some reason, it is a problem to use tmp, then you could just use tmp2.

     

    Edited once by RebMiami. Last: 19th Sep 2023
  • username90000
    20th Sep 2023 Member 0 Permalink

    i still see no uses of this

  • tptQuantification
    23rd Sep 2023 Member 0 Permalink

    @username90000 (View Post)

     

    A few things about the neut moderatior:

     

    I made a reactor that uses slow neutrons with dcel and crmc, 

    And it wont work the same if the dcel is replaced with anything.

    Its been one of the only ways ive been able to make relatively realistic reactors with plut, where neutron flux actually mattered, and I'd love to do this in a way thats actually destructible without like warp or bomb

     

    And

     

    Slowing neut allows the neut to add more pressure per cell. Even if plut fissing has nothing to do with neut, and only to do with pressure, slowing down neut would still effect this  the speed is important.

     

    If a neut has a vx of 1, its adding a bit of pressure, 4 times, to one cell, over 4 frames before moving on to the next cell.

    If a neut has a vx of 4, its adding a bit of pressure, once, to one cell, over 1 frame, before moving on to the next cell.

    Youre able to get more concentrated pressure from slower neutrons.

     

     

    It also seems, but this is by far the most anecdotal 

    Slower neutrons, slower energy particles in general, are better at reflecting off objects as opposed to being absorbed.

     

     

     

    As far as the elec emmiter:

    Do you also find polo useless?

    I really dont see why an elec source would be useless.

    Edited 3 times by tptQuantification. Last: 23rd Sep 2023
  • username90000
    23rd Sep 2023 Member 0 Permalink

    @tptQuantification (View Post)

    use pressurized water 
    electrons sources useless
    did u heard of isoz + bizr 
    it is called skill issue 
    i see only 1 problem there and it is skill issue

  • tptQuantification
    5th Oct 2023 Member 1 Permalink

    @username90000 (View Post)

    None of it is a problem, it's entirely a suggestion. I've not come across any issues. 

    My point is that moderators other than water, would be useful because they actually are useful in the current version of powdertoy. I'm using the fact that I have done it as proof. I dont think I can't do things with the elements I have available to me, I'm saying it would be very nice to do it differently. 

     

    Using pressurized water is a bit of a non sequitur. I guess your point is that neutrons can be moderated by water, 

    But also,

    My point is that it would be really nice to have different ways of moderating neutrons. I think it'd be cool to have a neutron moderator that's not either water, which boils and becomes a neutron reflector, or indestructible.

     

    I have a save with isoz and bizr, it sure is an electron source. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice to just have a polo style electron source.

     

    And why be antagonistic, and go from

    Thats useless 

    To 

    You're skill-less

  • ArolaunTech
    20th Dec 2023 Member 0 Permalink

    I think that water is good enough as a neutron moderator, but an electron source would be interesting.

     

    Maybe add a proton source as well? (we already have ISZS for a photon source)